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	<title>Comments on: How Can There Be a Fair Debate About Healthcare When the Most Popular Model Is Eliminated From the Discussion?</title>
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		<title>By: Bill G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about eliminating 4th party pay systems instead and let the market force the inflation out of health care?

4th party pay:
Customer visits doctor.
Doctor bills insurer.
Insurer pays doctor.
Insurer sets premium based on claim history.
Employer pays premium.

Replace it with 
Customer pays doctor
Customer buys insurance strictly for protection against catastrophic expense

Doing so ensures that cost cannot rise above customer's ability to pay
In current system the customer doesn't care how much it costs and by the time the employer gets the bill it is too late

Look at it like this, you don't use your car insurance when you get the oil changed.  Why use health insurance when you get a checkup?&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about eliminating 4th party pay systems instead and let the market force the inflation out of health care?</p>
<p>4th party pay:<br />
Customer visits doctor.<br />
Doctor bills insurer.<br />
Insurer pays doctor.<br />
Insurer sets premium based on claim history.<br />
Employer pays premium.</p>
<p>Replace it with<br />
Customer pays doctor<br />
Customer buys insurance strictly for protection against catastrophic expense</p>
<p>Doing so ensures that cost cannot rise above customer&#8217;s ability to pay<br />
In current system the customer doesn&#8217;t care how much it costs and by the time the employer gets the bill it is too late</p>
<p>Look at it like this, you don&#8217;t use your car insurance when you get the oil changed.  Why use health insurance when you get a checkup?<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: ULTRA150</title>
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		<dc:creator>ULTRA150</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don't you stop beating around the bush and just come out and say it ( get a pair ) you want free health care and you want someone else to pay for it so you don't have to.
Just like my lawyer brother in-law - fat, want exercise, eats all the wrong foods, drinks every day, and has had a heart attack already 10 years ago. So now he sits on his fat ass and complains about the cost of health insurance, he want the free system like you do. I told him why should I have to pay more tax just so you can sit their get fatter on my dime.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you stop beating around the bush and just come out and say it ( get a pair ) you want free health care and you want someone else to pay for it so you don&#8217;t have to.<br />
Just like my lawyer brother in-law - fat, want exercise, eats all the wrong foods, drinks every day, and has had a heart attack already 10 years ago. So now he sits on his fat ass and complains about the cost of health insurance, he want the free system like you do. I told him why should I have to pay more tax just so you can sit their get fatter on my dime.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: reborn</title>
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		<dc:creator>reborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Support Obama and Pelosi my shoe....I would love to throw mine at them...if they would quit spending money on Illegals and that is in the billions maybe we could afford to help our own.....liberals long live the bleeding heart.... same goes for schooling less money for americans. at some point and time we have to be practical people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Support Obama and Pelosi my shoe&#8230;.I would love to throw mine at them&#8230;if they would quit spending money on Illegals and that is in the billions maybe we could afford to help our own&#8230;..liberals long live the bleeding heart&#8230;. same goes for schooling less money for americans. at some point and time we have to be practical people.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: CD</title>
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		<dc:creator>CD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least if we socialize our health care system we can kill Canadians legally.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least if we socialize our health care system we can kill Canadians legally.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Boss H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boss H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right-wing propaganda doesn't want people to realize that any plan proposed is medical care provide by private medical companies, while paid for by private health care companies, where the policies are subsidized according to income.
It does not promote their agenda to make people think anything other than the government plans to take control of the medical industry, which is an idea that isn't being proposed, and would pretty much be opposed by most people.

What you have just mentioned is what Obama has suggested, and many Democrats have proposed. there are many additions, such as tax breaks for companies that provide health care to employees, but essentially what you have describes is what has been proposed.


this explanation almost said exactly what you did
http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/health_care/&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right-wing propaganda doesn&#8217;t want people to realize that any plan proposed is medical care provide by private medical companies, while paid for by private health care companies, where the policies are subsidized according to income.<br />
It does not promote their agenda to make people think anything other than the government plans to take control of the medical industry, which is an idea that isn&#8217;t being proposed, and would pretty much be opposed by most people.</p>
<p>What you have just mentioned is what Obama has suggested, and many Democrats have proposed. there are many additions, such as tax breaks for companies that provide health care to employees, but essentially what you have describes is what has been proposed.</p>
<p>this explanation almost said exactly what you did<br />
<a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/health_care/" rel="nofollow">http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/health_care/</a><br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Blame Bush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blame Bush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You'd better get in line.  Millions of children do not have health care. Lets support Pelosi Obama and get this thing done!&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d better get in line.  Millions of children do not have health care. Lets support Pelosi Obama and get this thing done!<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: ck4829</title>
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		<dc:creator>ck4829</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 01:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#34;Profits is more important than patients&#34; system of health care is failing.

There will be a change, it may not be tomorrow, but it will happen.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &quot;Profits is more important than patients&quot; system of health care is failing.</p>
<p>There will be a change, it may not be tomorrow, but it will happen.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: 60 % approve? Obama has U fooled</title>
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		<dc:creator>60 % approve? Obama has U fooled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 01:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might as well get used to it. It is going to be the Obama/Pelosi way or the highway!!  They will pass everything they want and damn the American people or anyone else that doesn't support it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might as well get used to it. It is going to be the Obama/Pelosi way or the highway!!  They will pass everything they want and damn the American people or anyone else that doesn&#8217;t support it.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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